Does Turkesterone Improve Muscle Growth? (Explaining the Scam)

Turkesterone is one of the most popular (and infamous) muscle-building supplements on the market. Joe Rogan, More Plates More Dates, and Vitruvian Physique have all discussed its benefits. Most famously of all, Greg Doucette touts the benefits of his turkesterone supplement (Turk Builder) several times per week to hundreds of thousands of people per video.

The idea was that turkesterone could boost testosterone production, boosting muscle growth. It doesn’t seem to do that, so there’s been a marketing pivot. Now, it’s said to promote muscle growth via other pathways. More on that in a moment.

To get to the bottom of this, I started by speaking with Dr. Eric Trexler. He’s got a doctorate degree in sports science, has published over 30 strength and hypertrophy studies, and studies metabolism at Duke University.

We also have a few studies to review, along with the official position of the International Society of Sports Nutrition (ISSN).

And then there are the scams, scandals, and redemption arcs.

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What is Turkesterone?

Turkesterone is a phytoecdysteroid, a chemical produced by plants (such as spinach) as a defence mechanism against insects. When insects consume the plant, the phytoecdysteroids make their shells fall off (moult), killing them.

However, ecdysteroid has “steroid” in it. So, as you might imagine, bodybuilders have started supplementing with it. And they aren’t totally wrong. Turkesterone is thought to be an agonist of the estrogen beta receptor, which could then boost testosterone, increasing anabolism and thus increasing muscle growth. At least in theory.

That’s where turkesterone comes in. Turkesterone is a phytoecdysteroid, and it’s currently one of the most hyped supplements on YouTube.

Is Turkesterone Good for Building Muscle?

A Quick Review of the Turkesterone Research

A few studies found ecdysteroids (such as turkesterone) had performance-enhancing effects in birds and beetles (study, study). However, the International Society of Sports Nutrition (ISSN) considers these studies unreliable because they weren’t published in reputable journals, the design of the studies was subpar, the results were poorly presented, and they weren’t conducted on humans.

There’s one randomly controlled ecdysterone trial conducted on humans. It’s this paper by Isenmann and colleagues. The results were impressive:

But the study is a little weird. The ecdysteroid supplements they were testing only contained 6% of the dosage listed on the label, which shouldn’t have been enough to produce an effect. But it did. At least according to the BIA scale they used.

However, as everyone who’s ever used a BIA scale while bulking will know, they’re infamously bad at differentiating between muscle growth, fat gain, and any other change in lean mass. So, although these results are interesting, I’m skeptical, as are most experts.

There’s another study we can look at. This time, the researchers used DEXA scans to measure muscle growth. DEXA is far more reliable.

In this study, the placebo group gained 2.2 pounds more muscle than the guys taking ecdysteroids, though the results didn’t reach statistical significance. This doesn’t suggest that turkesterone harms muscle growth, just that small studies often find differences between groups, and those differences don’t necessarily prove anything.

This second paper is the more credible of the two. As a result, the ISSN’s stance on turkesterone is:

Ecdysterones [including turkesterone] are not recommended for supplementation to increase training adaptations or performance.

The International Society of Sports Nutrition

It’s also worth pointing out that the above are studies on ecdysteroids, not on turkesterone specifically. At the moment, there’s no good research showing turkesterone is effective.

A Brief Conversation With a Supplement Researcher

Perhaps there’s more to the research. Maybe there’s a mechanism we’re overlooking. Maybe there’s more to turkesterone than meets the eye. So, we asked Dr. Eric Trexler whether turkesterone could plausibly help someone bulk up.

Dr Trexler has published over 30 studies. Perhaps more relevantly, he professionally reviews hypertrophy research, including both of the turkesterone studies. He told me:

At this time, there is not sufficient evidence to suggest that turkesterone enhances increases in strength or muscle mass in humans.

Eric Trexler, PhD, Monthly Applications in Strength Sport (MASS)

If you’ve been in the fitness industry for a while, you know how these things go. Glutamine is the hot thing, then gets disproven. Then arginine. Then BCAAs. Then Tribulus.

Sometimes, these supplements come back for a second round of hype. That’s what’s happening right now. Ecdysteroids were popular a couple of decades ago. Now they’re popular again because turkesterone is a new variation that hasn’t been solidly disproven yet.

Supplement hype rarely lasts long, but while it does, millions of dollars are made from people yearning for an edge.

Is Turkesterone A Scam?

The next question is whether turkesterone supplements contain the ingredients they advertise in doses that could conceivably be effective. This is where the argument for turkesterone begins to break down even more.

The controversy began with Nootropics Depot, a lab that tests the quality of various supplements. They tested a few of the most popular brands of turkesterone, including the turkesterone sold by Gorilla Mind (owned by More Plates More Dates) and Harder Than Last Time (owned by Greg Doucette). They found that these supplements contained less than 1% of the turkesterone they advertised.

Nootropics Depot also sells its own supplements, including ecdysterone. This makes them a competitor to the brands who sell turkesterone. As a result, their claims were met with quite a lot of skepticism. However, when More Plates More Dates and Greg Doucette hired independent labs to test their own supplements, they confirmed that the turkesterone was fake. The supplements did indeed contain less than 1% of the turkesterone advertised on the bottle.

So it seems that even the anecdotal evidence in favour of turkesterone comes from people using fake turkesterone supplements.

The 2022 Turkesterone Scandal

A new study was just published. It was looking at whether supplements actually contain the ingredients on the label. They tested turkesterone supplements. None of the turkesterone supplements contained even 1% of the turkesterone quantity claimed on the label.

At this point, the evidence is overwhelming: turkesterone is a scam. It probably doesn’t work, and you can’t buy it anyway—all of the turkesterone on the market is fake.

2025 Update

Since the turkesterone scam scandal of 2022/2023, it seems that some people—including Greg Doucette—have found a way to get their hands on genuine turkesterone. As of 2025, it seems that HTLT Turk Builder contains the advertised doses of turkesterone, as tested by third-party labs.

This might sound promising, but remember that Greg Doucette claimed to get extreme muscle-building benefits from the fake turkesterone. Now that he has real turkesterone, his claims are the same, which makes me suspicious that they’re any more credible.

It isn’t impossible that there’s a benefit to turkesterone, but my career depends in part on how good my physique looks, and it depends greatly on the results I get for clients, and I don’t bother taking or recommending turkesterone.

I do bother recommending supplements with more evidence to back them up, such as protein powder, creatine, and even weight gainers (in some circumstances). I don’t have any issues with supplements. But I also don’t want to waste your money.

Final Review

There aren’t any good studies showing turkesterone will help you build muscle. In fact, the most relevant evidence shows that other ecdysteroids that are similar to turkesterone don’t increase muscle growth. There’s no evidence to show it’s dangerous and nothing to prove it’s safe.

Most hype surrounding turkesterone comes from the people who produce it, sell it, or make affiliate revenue from promoting it. There are few, if any, unbiased experts who believe it works. The most credible experts think it’s a scam.

With supplements, it’s wise to be a late adopter. There are a few good muscle-building supplements with decades of research proving their effectiveness: creatine, caffeine, and protein. These are the supplements you should turn to when you’re looking for better muscle-building results.

Finally, keep in mind that even the best supplements pale in comparison to hypertrophy training, eating a good bulking diet, and getting enough good sleep.

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